Canon did it right here, pushing the boundaries. This second-generation lens is smaller than its predecessor and uses a stepping motor, compared to the linear ultrasonic motors used in Samyang's first-generation 85mm F1.4 AF lens. And it is something my little Canon is not able to give me. Gone from the old camera is the centrally mounted viewfinder and fully articulating screen, but the new camera is more svelte and pocketable as a result. DPReview TV: Canon G5 X Mark II vs. G7 X Mark III. I take my AMG. So the little Sony's versatility from an ergonomic standpoint is actually going to be better for some shooters.On the other hand, the Sony's menus and controls can be tough for people who don't adapt easily. That screen lets me do a lot of things I can't physically due with my G5x or G11. No, one buys the right tool for the right job. TBH, a 1" sensor isn't really going to cut it in low light, but these kinds of cameras are good when the light is good. My problem with Canon is that they're too reserved, too guarded. Only a few lively young children presented problems, and a good hiding easily fixes that. " Touch was available, but sometimes the icons were too small to accurately touch. The end game is not specs but the images you take. Okay, maybe not clearly (that chart not starting at 0 is somewhat misleading). As I said before, comparison must be apples with apples. Expensive? Our current protocol was designed around interchangeable lens cameras. I have not tested it yet. I wouldn't use either above ISO 1600 if I could help it.3) I own cameras that are ideal for different tasks. Thanks a lot! The Canon has the size of a E-PM1 (Pen Mini) without a lens attached. Manually focusing completely kills the candid moment. usually shooting still subjects or moderate action), this is a great pocket travel camera. She does have some experience and good technique. I wish.https://www.dpreview.com/products/panasonic/slrs/panasonic_dmcgm5https://www.dpreview.com/products/pentax/lenses/pentax_xs_40_2. Well, I don't see any 24-100/120mm f1.8-2.8 camera from Sony but since they were released at the same time people tend to overlook the slow lens and compare RX100 VI/VII instead of VA.Back then they released the G3x and forced Sony to react with a beautiful RX10 III. A data recovery expert in Poland, Enter Serwis, has shown off how they use a Spider Board to recover data from a non-functioning memory card. When traveling as a family, sometimes even m-43 is too big of a system to bring along. My personal opinion is that 24fps is a relic of the past and we shouldnt cling to it in a cargo cult fashion. Canon's PowerShot G5 X Mark II earns a solid silver award - here's the full story. Take a bunch of photographs with either and you wont see better in the output. You get what you pay for and Sony is still king in this segment. My wife used it to shoot a 3 day rally for medicare-for-all and returned with over 300 shots and ONE was out of focus. I did, however, fail to mention the Sony's superior AF performance. Not to mention all the mFT alternatives. It's amazing and useful.2) The RAW files of the cameras are very close and I prefer the color output of the Sony, which more closely matches my Nikon gear. A cheap mirrorless and good prime are better than the LX100, but that would also be missing the point. Anyone who actually studies photography knows why a viewfinder is key and cannot be replaced by a rear LCD. AF alone is not making for the f-stop difference, nor would I recommend the Canon to someone who would need that extra range. And if you're going to try to convince us you don't need AF for toddlers / children, well, you can try, but "Even with manual focusing I've always found it easy to focus on my grandparents, my parents, my siblings, my uncles and aunts". DJI's impending CineWhoop-style drone has hit the FCC database, signaling its release likely isn't too far off. I know how good the VI is, but it is a nice weather camera, but useless in low light. You're paying for the miniaturization. In the future maybe point out a camera isn't great for "fast" or simply "moving children". The rest is fairly pointless if your shots are not in focus.The tiny Sony has DSLR level AF. To me it's like Apple products, if one says it's overpriced someone will say no, it's 2mm slicker than any other products and the SSD can transfer at 3.5gbps and they won't care if, for the same price, one can buy a workstation or a gaming rig. "its peers" means at the same price point, right? @MrHollywood Hmm, for me Canon is a totally different camera than the Sony. The professional video editor includes cloud tools, improved editing features, better performance and much more. For half the price and every picture is a keeper. Thx. Canon colors/WB are also more accurate. Interesting. You get what you pay for. "but if you're a parent who wants to capture action you might consider other options." But unlike the G5, the pictures are way above those taken with my iPhone. I have had several 1" cameras including the G7X I and II, the LX10 and the RX100 III and VI. Its very very good gear but what does that tell you when most brands are very good. On the last screen of the wrench menu, choose Custom Functions (C.Fn), then go to screen 4 of that menu, press Set, then choose the button to be modified. Lens performance looks to be streched to the limit in order to provide more zoom.4. @MrHollywoodThe Sony is smaller, thats why they only get 24-70mm F1.8-2.8 in a VA. Thats why those two cameras are not in the same category for me. Im now testing the Fuji XF 10. Inexperienced amateurs are the primary market for finderless cameras. There are times and places where using the rear LCD can work, but having BOTH is far better. Just wondering though why the score in the conclusion for 'Low light/high ISO performance' is so low given the fast lens and good high ISO performance in your test scene? Micron's next-generation 232-layer NAND has started shipping. Today people is taking too much picture instead creating photos. Well, when it comes to optics, the ZS100 scores higher than the Canon. ), Film Friday: How Markus Hofstaetter uses 'smart home' tools to automate his darkroom and studio, Micron ships its 232-layer 3D NAND flash with more storage, better performance and a smaller package size, Photographer Reuben Wu uses drones to shed new light on Stonehenge for the National Geographic August cover. This camera would be fine for my extended family. But it's much bigger if you want the same zoom range and apperture. It would require a new set of tests that I fully agree would be very useful. So thats why you ended up with the RX100 VII and other buy the Canon. However for a general carry anywhere walkabout camera for anything but video or action it's a very viable alternative. You can download samples and see for yourself. If anyone has a connection at Canon I think this would be a big improvement and a leapfrog over the Sony RX100 line which I believe does not support it either. But Sony simply has the better camera for most situations in the RX100 VI and VII. Pls act upon it.". In terms of performance, the rx100 series are the reference cameras in the compact camera segment since 2012, despite their high price and other companies' attempts at challenging that. Anybody can help? We assume that if you're stepping up to one of these from your smartphone, you actually care about images at the pixel level, or in other words magnified (a proxy for a larger print). As an RX100Mk3 owner, I like how Canon fit more reach and better physical/digital controls in their camera. From the pictures, I would say that the noise level of the LX10 at ISO1600 better matches the G5Xm2 at ISO3200, than having both on ISO3200.It is hard to believe, that one of two similar spec'ed cameras differ that much in noise performance. If someone is into sports, or anything that requires that kind of AF, will they buy a camera that will show its limits past ISO1600-3200, with all the options we have?That's exactly the thing, since they can't improve IQ just yet, they send their users on the quest for AF. A Ferrari has better specs than a Ford Focus but both can only travel at the national speed limit. Nikon has announced the Z30, an entry-level Z-mount camera aimed at vloggers and other content creators. Yup. Not every camera has to be 100% dedicated to street photography. Canon wants the most people to buy their cameras. If you look at the features of a $5000 camera and later you find some of them at a $800 camera, this would be some important information. DP Review really needs to look at functional design details like this. GAS, . If you don't need that, you can likely do well with one of the lesser models. Its miles better. The viewfinder is there, just retractable. again MrHollywood, the VI can't keep up as well as TZ200 with people moving on a stage with lighting. Even on standard, it was too easy to make wrong selections. The Canon has inferior AF compared to the Sony. Dropping 24 FPS was not a good idea. As I said, I'm shooting D850, D5 etc. If you don't need fast AF tracking (e.g. The Haukland 7in1 photography jacket includes dedicated features and pockets designed for photographers, including a pocket for a cleaning cloth and interior compartments for batteries, memory cards, filters and other accessories. Canon has released a trio of firmware updates that add new and improved features and functions to its EOS R3, R5 and R6 full-frame cameras. Good tools are pretty useful, cars and cameras both.Seduced by AF??? For a small camera, we find the grip to be generous and secure, and the updated processor combines with the new sensor for some seriously responsive performance. It's a serious flaw that renders the camera unusable (at least when the vanes don't fully open). There is a hugh difference between rhe Sony and the Canon. It also can be hand-holded unlike Sony. On paper this is the best "pocket camera". In the comparing DPR bars the sony RX100IV JPEG is better then this canon. I'm a Nikon guy for the most part. 99% of Consumers don't need an EVF to take a photo. 25fps is too close to 24fps to not have the same "cinematic look".However, for 24fps aficionados who will be satisfied by 25fps, if all TV sets usually play back 25fps videos without frame rate conversion, or at least just by doubling the frame rate at 50fps, some cameras are crippled according to the region they are sold, so 25/50fps settings cannot be available in countries using 60Hz as their AC power frequency Any chance they might be satisfied by 30fps too? It's annoying that they just sell downgraded crippled cameras for lower prices and let Sony have the best overall model. it would be nice if they could get the new sensor and processor in the old body but it is not going to happen.These major course changes in design are difficult to come to terms with as with the G1X III. it seems the Canon is softer (I'm guessing the lens is at fault) but gives a cleaner image than all the 1" sensored cameras to date. Is there any further explanation about "Picky about USB chargers" this in the "what we don't like" list? However in your example of Canon RP vs A7riv, the targeted consumers are very different, one camera is for amateurs (entry level) and one is for professional use, and the price points are completely different, we're not talking about a 30% increase in price like here which many people could consider, but a 250% increase in price. All of those things require the best possible AF modules and Sony understands that. No other camera we've tried has handed over such a success rate. Not sure what that means, could anyone pls explain? Do I miss something? This week, Chris and Jordan do a side-by-side comparison to help you choose the one that's right for you. And I would expect a bigger sensor if we really talk about DOF control. Find out what it offers and what we think so far. Perhaps true if you only look at specs. Its funny how top photographers continue to succeed with supposedly inferior gear isnt it. A shame there isn't more competition in this segment. Let good cop Jordan and bad cop Chris walk you through their thoughts. Reducing color saturation a little bit also reduces the level of chroma noise at high ISO. His inviting green skin and magenta highlights are at the forefront of cinematic artistry . If you are reading the quote as saying the camera is poor in those areas, or won't meet most needs, then they need to re-word what they wrote to avoid giving that wrong impression to people. Not to mention that the Canon is as expensive as an X-T30!. You can begin realizing your ideas as OpenAI, DALL-E's creator, has opened the AI up for public beta testing. If the autofocus was a little better and the video capability a little more stout, I would love to purchase this to compliment my RX100 M6 (RX for the longer focal lengths, G5x for lower light, and indoors), and have a fantastic, tiny 2 camera travel system I could take anywhere. I was looking for THAT comparison.As a Fuji shooter I'll keep my money and continue to enjoy my X-T2 and X70.Still waiting for a true X30 successor with 1" sensor Maybe you need to shoot RAW and dedicate more time into PP? Like I said, those cameras are really different. In a few years time the floor will probably be APSC. This is very misleading. The canon design is obviously copying the rx100.2. And contrary to what a few people claim, I'm NOT a Sony fan. Recently sold the g5x(1) because of the so-so lens and lack of speed. Comparing as shot with the same EV. I've handled this camera (and my RX100 II) MUCH more than the Canon and never had a problem. At least what I'm wearing it was very uncomfortable to put my old RX100 (I) anywhere in my pockets. As I said, I'd love to see Canon or Nikon jump in and top Sony. Canon with the G5x iii is targeting consumers with $800 to spend while Sony with RX100 vii have consumers who have $1200 to spend. The 1-inch camera can put into pocket, while XT20 couldn't. It's a comparison sheerly made on value for money. How many pictures can be taken with the RX100 that can't be taken with the Canon? I realized that I have to carry a small bag anyway. :), Using the compare tool to compare the G5Xm2 with the LX10, for high-ISO RAW it looks like the G5Xm2 shows significant less noise. I understand your point, and it's a good one. Makes me want to try it on my Sony RX10! Have a look at the aperture chart here: https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canon-powershot-g5-x-mark-ii-review/2. A second accu is small and light. The IQ of the Canon and Sony are very close, but the AF advantages for the Sony are very real, especially if you shoot anything that moves. Cons: "Photographers that need the best autofocus for action or family photography, as well as video shooters who may want a stronger feature set and better video quality.". I think APSC, MFT will survive as sonsor formats. Interesting. Handling is perhaps slightly better on Canon, and colors after some tweaking. Look at M50, not the best camera, cheap, but it's n1 in Japan and sells well in other countries. Serious work; plus don't adapt easily for any problems there may be with the Sony as you pile on the pressure.This is just an everyday camera at a lower price point than the current Sony and is just never going to be really understood by a top level guy throwing money at the hobby.i have a G5X Mk I so I would hate to know what you think of that looking down from your top tier but it works for me. When reviews call the RX100 VII the best travel & family camera ever made, are they all lying? If you're looking for the perfect drone for yourself, or to gift someone special, we've gone through all of the options and selected our favorites. LOL! Also much easier to track a moving subject. It's small, inexpensive and incredibly wide. As a side note, I wonder if Panasonic will ever update the lx10? So far they're doing exactly that. Panasonic LX100 II has better image quality, it looks like. The higher ISOs are better controlled, you might not need it, other do. Increase the size of the display Canon. Whats for the King and the common folk almost exemplifies Sony against the competition nowadays. The Sony AF and video quality and features are a lot better. And the Canon UI is head and shoulders ahead of Sony's offerings (such a small body cries out for touch selection of exposure controls). Plenty of awards, competitions and magnum photos are taken on all brands of cameras. Honestly I think both product lines are great. "I'd like them to take Sony's torch away". I changed my tune after I tried one. Check out our sample gallery and let us know what you think of its image quality. I'd say this is quite the same as with the iPhone's bendgate: a phone shouldn't bend in a backpocket but is sitting on your phone a standard use case? In this buying guide we've rounded-up several great cameras for shooting landscapes, and recommended the best. I own bunch of Fuji's. Want it cheap then there is the RX100 I but if that was fit for purpose why is there a 8th version of the camera and any single issue with a Canon or Panasonic there is always a particular mark of the Sony cited that can do better or represent value for money at that level but for heaven's sake we can't buy all of them. I doubt if they would disable the on/off button or standby mode just because the EVF is up.I agree that it is a pity that canon did not stick to the old design but probably they had to go with the tide here.I have just bought the old Mk I as the pleasant handling outweighs the micro image analysis and speed for my particular needs and I rarely use RAW. I know it's kinda apples and oranges, but the GRIII is a niche camera that performs exceptionally well where it counts, while the G5X II seems just adequate in more areas. You just track and shoot, which is great for a small form factor. Sony makes the best sensors. IQ is a technical category of jugement in the photography world. I find with my grandchildren you can get the knack of anticipating when they bounce and freeze for that instance before rushing off in a different direction. Makes sense. So for the LX10, the G5 X II could be an upgrade, especially as the LX10 lacks the viewfinder and it's autofocus also is not great despite of DFD. Weve chosen cameras that can take great photos and make it easy to get great looking video, rather than being the ones youd choose as a committed videographer. Just trying to get an explanation for that. But the lens difference and the AF difference make the cameras quite different beasts. It will be difficult to put the G or the RX in jeans pockets. Not everyone is tech-crazy like I am and so I always suggest trying the camera out before buying regardless of what reviews claim. Dont like the handling and controls. In the meantime, the older versions of the lenses - and three other lenses - are being discontinued. This is BS. I'll wait for the VIII version and see what that has. I'd put it on the same level as comparing the AF on my Nikon Df to my Nikon D810 or D850, which was in another league. No magic! Otherwise, who would buy it? Still find it stupid the canon lost the hotshoe, fully articulating screen and the sturdy EVF. I like to take my time and compose shots, and decided that in order to overcome that, it would need to be on a monopod to get the stable feel that I enjoy. Serious? I'd say the Ricoh GRIII is definitely comparing apples and oranges. Sigma CEO, Kazuto Yamaki, has stated in an interview that its much-anticipated full-frame Foveon sensor should be ready by the end of the year. 3) Sony listens to customers and makes adjustments quickly. "Controlling DOF at 200mm"What exactly are you controlling with a 1" sensor? If you do that, and move between the 2 cameras, you can see that the Pany scores higher in the Optics section. Canon's newest compact cameras, the G5 X II and G7 X III, have a lot in common, but with some very important differences. Since decent ergonomics are usually one of Canon's strengths, what was "to fidgity and sensitive" about the camera? I guess I'm suggesting that the minimum power level be tested, or wondering why on Earth Canon failed to document this. Best settings are very personal, as it is a matter of taste. well, doesn't really matter if canon couldn't mach the AF and cut the price as a consequence or they targeted a price point and had to cut some stuff. The Zeiss lens and AF make it worth the money, though the 1" sensor will remain a limitation for these small models. Whenever I can though, it's the evf. But I prefer it with the grip, which also has a small cage to protect the camera. It really is a case of the emperors new cloths. Next month we'll be heading out to take photos at the Amboy Crater, a dead volcano in the desert. Well, I'm guessing we took a look at the studio scene tool from DPR. Sony's high price puts them in a somewhat different segment. Canon had to squeeze out the lens + sensor system in order to get the 5x zoom: raw images at 8.8mm show black corners, and they are not in the jpg because of the stretching applied with len correction. Destin Sandlin of Smarter Every Day is back with the second part of his three-part tour of the Kodak factory. But which family members are so impossible to freeze because of bad focusing? The updates don't bring any new features or functionality, but do address a number of bugs present in the company's X-A5, X-A7, X-H1, X-T100 and X-T200 APS-C mirrorless cameras. Anyone can see that via the samples. This time, Sandlin shows how Kodak applies light-sensitive coating to the film support base we saw produced in the first factory tour. Using DXO's NR software will produce results that would be tough to tell apart. Not simple, but doable. In how many situations a picture can be taken by RX100 VI but not by another product? The evidence is out there to see. Sonys sensor Dept is independent of their camera Dept. I'm Fuji owner and only using a camera for still. But it is an educated comment, like you I own a stunning array of different cameras and different formats. We'll discuss this, we need to balance both the JPEG NR performance and the lens' brightness over the focal range for compact cameras. The VI and VII are pretty expensive. "Of course and we don't need a sharp lens because we can also add sharpness. when standing face down on the lens does the camera push itself up and down when zoomed in/out with remote shooting app? are all of them starting to misfocus on a static landscape? It's image quality is far better than what you get from a smartphone. Holding a camera in front of your face = two fairly shaky points of contact. Even with manual focusing I've always found it easy to focus on my grandparents, my parents, my siblings, my uncles and aunts, etc. It's a shame because otherwise, they are very nice cameras. I'd wait to read a few more reviews but my criticism was less about the RX100 VII than about the VI, which I tried and didn't find to be the best. Sounds like a RX100 sounds like a better option. Also, that good prime is worthless if the user needs zoom. It is utterly useless to try and understand the scoring. The service was more than poor. EVF is the excuse for cameras that have poor and horrible touch displays such as Sony. We've added the Canon PowerShot G7 X Mark III to our studio test scene comparison tool, so it's now possible to compare image quality between four of the top 1"-type sensor compact cameras. Photographers have been seduced by sharp images for a long time. I could see myself leaving all my gear in the hotel and just bringing a VII on an excursion without giving anything up, which is amazing. Mountain driving? I suggest studying up on technique. The images. So I shot 100-ish photos, and the image quality was fine and about what I expected. It is also one more thing that can fail. One battery NB-13L costs more than $50. So a slightly larger mirrorless is no more an obstacle. The finalists for the annual Comedy Pet Photo Awards have been announced, highlighting the humorous side of our animal companions. The primary reason, smartphones are the cameras of choice. If you shoot sport, you need a better AF, but the AF of the Canon works like that one of the RX100IV. I figured it required USB-PD based on what I read in the review. Sounds like the Sony RX100 is still king in this market segment. Thanks for the feedback. If you could not get a sharp result 1/60 at 200mm, you either have poor technique or a bad camera. There's nothing ostensibly "good" about weaker AF. Sony isn't forcing anyone to buy anything. Im at a loss here. ? If you "don't share my findings with the AF" then you also don't share ANYONES findings. I still think it would be better built in as the previous one was,as, if you leave it up it is bound to snag. TZ100 was not so sharp (but can be fixed adding a little sharpness in PP) but TZ200 is better and give more reach. A 8.8mm (24 mm equivalent) raw photo is usable without lens correction only cropping out of it a good 30%. Sensor size is the same. This doesn't really break any new ground, but I do like the fact you get a pretty fast ( f1.8-2.8) lens with a 5x zoom. In fact, the Sony is the only small camera I've owned with AF on par with my DSLRs. Better watch to find out. Its common sense that for $1200 one gets a better AF system than if one only had $500. They're both nicely tweaked 1" sensors. In creating the G5 X Mark II, Canon has clearly taken more design inspiration from the G7 X lineup than the original G5 X. And the RX100 M7 version adds even better AF! For hiking, travel, sailing and family, the RX100 VI or VII are the top of the game. So sad there still is no standardized test method used. I wouldn't consider the VII as even better, I'd say it makes the RX100 become what it needed to be to be the leader. 180 shots . a near ideal travel camera ? Just a few bucks more M50 is waiting to be lapped ? Of course a great heap of his old redundant hand me downs are available if you can fathom out what they actually do and do not do. Ill still shoot Raw but like to include JPEG also now that the JPEG engines are so much better than they used to be . Bringing up smartphones as some sort of reasoning to drop the advantages of the EVF is redonkulous. Does it require a USB-PD charger with a certain minimum power level? My LG V20 has an ultra wide and standard wide lens, but lacks a telephoto. In other words, no keepers.While I understand the fact the sensors are in different sizes an classes, I remember having been charmed with images out of cameras equipped with even smaller sensor. Yes, unfortunately none of my USB chargers at home or in my car can charge this camera. I do think you are correct, but then it completely undermines the scoring bars. Why do you assume the camera cannot be turned off with the EVF up? That's fact is confirmed everywhere. Sony's goal was to lead this segment. ..and isn't pocketableand has less zoomand is a different product segment. That's why I find this part irrelevant. The Sony ends up being worth the extra money.But I'd love to see something better than my RX100 VI (besides the VII). This is described on page 170 on the English language user guide. If Sony or canon can more money out of you or sell you the mirage of superiority they will. as opposed to what? The 24-70mm equivalent lens on my RX100 is pretty limited, and picking up 70% more reach without losing the ND filter or the wide aperture is amazing! The most interesting picture in the review ist the comparison of the lenses and aperture. False. The Sustainable Darkroom has released re-source, a new book that provides 'the most extensive collection of writing on sustainable photographic practice to date,' highlighting more environmentally-friendly ways to capture and develop analog images. Pls act upon it. Just a few. I own the RX100 VI and there are three major takeaways: 1) The 24-200mm lens is VERY good, ultra sharp.2) The AF is beyond good, almost uncanny.3) Colors and overall look is not that far off from my Nikon D850.4) Ergonomics are cured by adding a grip.5) Menus are clunky, but anyone with a hour to spare can learn them.6) I'm not a video guy, but good lord, the video IQ is stunning. This Canon is hoping to steal some customers away from Sony. Better AF does make a difference. I have a ZS50, and the lens is mediocre. I'm not sure how DPReview could review durability (and still deliver reviews only a few days after release). The similar vanes on my G7X bind and don't open and close properly because they are metal and are now slightly bent. "Only people who want the best small camera to augment their pro gear ".
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