like really? She’s today’s second guest, and she comes with receipts. Episode Number: 98 Episode Title: It’s ALIENS. And I, I personally told my writers, like, my reports, how much I made. Transcript: Episode 89 – Diversity and Inclusion ... Show Notes: Episode 90 – The Five Behaviors of a Cohesive Team May 25, 2020. It was still part of it. Cristen: This podcast was created by your hosts, Cristen Conger. Sesali: Oh, it's because there are only white women at the head of it. Eggheads; previous. Transcripts; Tags . Adam leads us through some key concepts related to traffic engineering in this episode of The Engineering Commons podcast. The Black Lives Matter protests that have broken out across the country are calling into account not only the police violence that led to the murder of George Floyd, but also the ways that white women like Amy Cooper perpetuate white supremacy and systemic racism every day. And the hypocrisy at Refinery is something that I've never experienced before, considering we have a whole section and a whole series based on, you know, women asking for what they want, how to negotiate a salary, how to manage your finances. When any other editor or director asked me how much I made, I told them because when you have transparency like that, it's harder for management to get away with these sorts of discrepancies and that's what's happening now. (listen to this episode)Transcript by: Susan the Great Support us: If you’d like to help us with our accessibility work and compensating Susan for her transcriptions, you can support the show in a myriad of ways!. Let us know! Marty Moore: Hey there, and welcome to Episode #90 of the No Bullsh!t Leadership podcast. Allegations range from physical violence and verbal abuse to constant tone policing and white colleagues getting credit for Black women’s ideas. It's because it's just like people just like airing out the things that we've known for a while. Support Us On Patreon. First of all, her resignation little message on Instagram was insulting. Shruti Marathe transcribes our tape. And for me, I followed the money, you know, and I started to learn that, like, things really started to change when Refinery29 raised a lot of venture capital, like it was like round after round. Corroborated. The women-only coworking space with 8 locations around the world, has received more than $100 million in VC funding. [00:00:56.610] Mike Sakasegawa: Hello, and welcome to Keep the Channel Open, a podcast featuring conversations with artists, writers, and curators.My name is Mike Sakasegawa and this is episode 90. And for me, that was it. But it's– if you are the CCO of a company and all this is happening on your watch and you say you didn't know about it, I think that's grounds enough that shows you- you're not doing your job. Ashley: From what I've heard from people who were there, Christene was planning on stepping aside even before this all happened. You know, like, respond. As far as Refinery goes, Kerry says their churn-and-burn pace had been an open secret in the industry and among her sources — as was the idea, like we heard at the top of the show, that Refinery29 wasn’t exactly the empowering, feminist utopia it appeared to be from the outside. Sloppy Pop (song) [for a bit] Announcer Bunny: If you think that was fun, watch this! Sesali: Oh, it was super congratulatory. Find us in stitcher, spotify, apple podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts. Reporting for CNN Business, Kerry interviewed more than 60 current and former Refinery29 employees who painted a picture of a deep-pocketed, but not-so-idyllic workplace. Cristen: Well, it's systemic and it's also grossly ironic because I know I have read many a Refinery29 piece about negotiating salaries and asking for what you're worth. And to a lot of people who don't know the inside workings of Refinery, it seems like a feminist, inclusive utopia. Episode 90 Deutsch English SRT. Cristen: Up next, we’ll talk to Kerry Flynn, a media reporter at CNN Business who spent 9 months reporting on the workplace culture at Refinery29. And it can't just be a symbolic token for someone– it needs to be somebody who's going to be there to make real change and have the opportunity to do so. Episode 89; next. Hey everyone! And we're starting to see it and have seen it for a while people, you know, hiring people to focus on diversity and inclusion and Chief People Officers and be transparent about their numbers. Ep #90: Numbing Take a Break From Drinking with Rachel Hart You are listening to the Take A Break podcast with Rachel Hart, episode 90. This article is a transcript of the Between the Lions episode "The Popcorn Popper" from season one, which aired on April 24, 2000. The Company is committed to taking the appropriate action based upon the independent findings that Morgan Lewis provides.”. Transcript - Episode 52 (RERUN): Sarah Gailey. It's about the conditions that we have to work in to tell them. Sesali: So basically in terms of how management handled it, Amy Emmerich... Cristen: Remember, Emmerich is the President and Chief Content Officer of Refinery29 … among other things …. Caroline: Internally, Sesali and the Unbothered team wanted to be clear that Unbothered is intentionally a capital-B Black sub-brand. Oh, my God, I'm being– I'm in meetings with Amy. Our music is by Flamingo Shadow, Amit May Cohen and Sarah Tudzin. And these you know people, they had this mission. I mean, it's really quite simple. Episode 90. And that was one of my first inclinations that like, oh, I guess that I'm here to show that there's diversity. What is going on? We are black women, this is for black women. 1 comment. English Subs. A week later, Vice Media, which owns Refinery29 (and has its own history of toxic workplace problems), announced they were launching an internal investigation into what the fuck has been happening inside Refinery. In other words, you know, why does Refinery need to speak specifically to black women? So this whole time Refinery was kind of just gaslighting me. You know, I felt so much, like, the black pop culture that I was covering, it was me talking to white people about black people in pop culture, and I wanted to talk to black people about black pop culture, if that makes sense. Cristen: The reckoning is far from over, too. Ashley: This was kind of at the height of the border crisis with the Trump administration separating children from their parents. is not your friend. So I would say that like all of my healthy, like romance, like every healthy habit I have in a romantic relationship is truly because I learned that in my friendships. We were like, we want to use the word black. podcast transcripts and podcast transcription services. Thank you. And pretty much the week, you know, when we were ready to do that is when the hashtag blackatr29 happened and people started speaking publicly. Khalea tweeted: “I was hired as a Beauty Writer in 2017 … a ‘natural hair writer’, specifically, is what I was told during my interviews. Cristen: Ashley tweeted, “Hey @Refinery29, cool blacked out homepage! Gianna Palmer is our story editor. According to a study called Project Diane, it’s just .0006 percent. This looks great." Caroline: Executives pigeonholing Black writers as race-centric reporters? Click, click and click! So, yeah, it's the moneymaker. Or, I like to say, reinsert ourselves into the narrative, because, I mean black women have a very rich history in terms of the origins of feminism. Thank you for wanting to know more today than you did yesterday. The app will let you know when new episodes go LIVE & allow you to listen to all of the episodes while on the go. Cristen: The times (plural) that same editor in chief confused a Black employee for another Black woman who worked there, even though they looked nothing alike? Kerry: You know, the people that I spoke to, some people did go to H.R. And "These girls have on crop tops and their titties are out." Please check with us before using any quotations from this transcript. The site was founded in 2005 by two white men — Justin Stefano and Philippe von Borries — as a blog about New York design and fashion. I, I couldn't deal with that kind of blatant discrimination, quite honestly. I was just tweeting it out of anger. Text Dokument 33.0 KB. Renato Beninatto is the co-author of The General Theory of the Translation Company and leads Nimdzi Insights, a think-tank and consulting company that focuses on growth strategies for localization leaders. Entertainment; format. Media reporter Kerry Flynn had been investigating the dynamics inside the company for the previous 9 months before the black-at-R29 hashtag hit. Announcer Bunny here. There is no diversity amongst the leadership. The following is a rough transcript which has not been revised by The Jim Rutt Show or by Joshua Epstein. Ashley: One of them was like, "Did you guys see Refinery blacked out the home page?" Michael Sakasegawa June 5, 2019 . She framed herself as some, like, noble person who is gracefully stepping aside to give a woman of color, or a black woman a seat at the table. In chronological order, the thinkers and ideas that forged the world we live in are broken down and explained. Cristen: In the course of her reporting, Kerry also obtained a copy of Refinery29’s 2018 demographics report. Sesali is going to tell us the story behind the Black women’s sub-brand that Refinery29 execs couldn't be bothered to fully support. And we'd done all of that without any formal resources from the company. If it were just one or two people, then maybe you can chalk it up to an accident. It's not something that's really practiced internally. Donate Via PayPal . Sesali worked as an entertainment writer at Refinery 29 from November 2016 to December 2018, and she’s one of the original minds behind Unbothered — the Refinery sub-brand started by and for Black women. episode 90 – transcript July 17, 2017. It's extremely hypocritical. Please contact us if you spot any errors.. Renay: Hello friends, I’m Renay.. Ana: And I’m Ana. Caroline: That celebrity factor is what led to one of Ashley Edwards’ first major what-the-fuck moments while working at R29. Just, you know, when the Vice acquisition happened. Episode Number: 90 Episode Title: Too Many Boobs (listen to this episode) Transcript by: Susan the Great Support us: If you’d like to help us with our accessibility work and compensating Susan for her transcriptions, you can support the show in a myriad of ways!. She does really amazing work. Caroline: So, how did management respond? Sesali: I think that there are, you know, to be transparent, there are different kinds of, like, presentations that, you know, black women have– obviously black women are not a monolith. save. They would be treated better by the companies that pay them to write those stories. The Union is less than a year old, and they'd already been organizing around issues of company diversity, pay disparity, and problematic leadership. Speak soon. Full podcast transcript available. Jade bi (inscribed in the eighteenth century), from China. But as you can see from the movement, it it's, it's systemic at this point. So, how has that become clearer to you in hindsight versus when you were still on staff there? Caroline: But just like at Refinery, current and former employees of The Wing say the company doesn’t walk its intersectional talk. A lot of the initial themes of the story were less about racism and tokenization. For a while, she even felt like one of the leadership’s favorites. She was killin it! And I heard that, and I was like, that just seems like that's the opposite of Refinery. Russel Treat: Welcome to the Pipeliners Podcast, episode 90, sponsored by Gas Certification Institute, providing training and standard operating procedures for custody transfer measurement professionals. Adding comments is not available at this time. Amy Emmerich is a fucking hustler, OK? For anyone interested in an educational podcast about philosophy where you don't need to be a graduate-level philosopher to understand it. The company touts itself as an forward-thinking, global leader in media for young women meant to inspire, entertain, and empower them. Cristen: On June 11, CNN Business published Kerry’s story exposing the problems that blackatR29 and the Refinery29 union had called out. This is kind of a special video – as it is the first time I have “asked for something back”. What is sparking the disconnect between, "Look at us. Caroline: Ashley didn’t want Refinery29, and specifically the section she was in charge of, to be associated with those racist tweets and get dragged across the internet. INN is a Star Citizen fansite and is not officially affiliated with CIG, but we reprint their materials with permission as a service to the community. They just didn't see that she deserved any more. Corroborated. Oh, my God, I'm in meetings with the head of video. Announcer Bunny: [Announcer Bunny pops out of the hat.] That you kind of get stuck in this limbo of, "Oh, yeah, you're doing a great job. Episode #090 ... Nietzsche pt. Caroline: We’re back with Sesali Bowen. Cristen: Full disclosure, I freelanced for Refinery29 for about a year. Share. Cristen: Calling out Refinery has had tangible consequences already. Her job title was social media editor. Cristen: Since Ashley was in a management position at Refinery for a year and a half, she had a front row seat to the way the company’s structural inequality trickled down. Cristen: At first, Sesali was thrilled to get hired by Refinery29. Welcome to Episode 90 of The Non-Anxious Leader podcast. Countless brands, celebs and influencers dutifully posted black squares to their accounts. So, she was planning on stepping down. Episode Transcript. Caroline: The list includes the head girlbosses of well-financed companies like The Wing, Man Repeller, Bando, Reformation — and digital-media powerhouse Refinery29 .. whose editor-in-chief also just stepped down. For anyone interested in an educational podcast about philosophy where you don't need to be a graduate-level philosopher to understand it. That means the musicians, the guests, people who appear on episodes if you edit an episode don't appear on it you get paid like you know this, this is equitably split with everybody that matters. So, Ashley brought her concerns to the higher ups. Is there, is there anything that we haven't asked you or touched on that you think is important for listeners to know? Audit as Quality Management: Full Episode Transcript. And everything else, obviously, is horrible and has resonated, but, you know, Refinery, the office is an office full of Amy Coopers. Like, as in like there's you know Refinery 29 started being like we want to like, not be Vogue. It was the summer of 2018, and Ashley was the deputy director of news and politics. I'm looking for the transcript for Episode 90 - Nietzsche Pt. So, I sent her a very nice e-mail and just saying, "Hey Christene, I just have some concerns about this, given what Amber had tweeted over the weekend and the tone of this piece. You can also visit unladylike.co to find this episode’s sources, transcripts, and our weekly Unladylike newsletter. During 2013 the United States experienced 32,719 motor-vehicle related fatalities . Like, not inclusive. Like, Refinery29 in 2016 was just, like, I think the place that any, you know, kind of millennial girl trying to get into media would want to work. Sesali: We had been trying to get time on Amy's calendar to come to an Unbothered meeting, so we could, you know, finally show her, like, what we'd done and kind of tell her, like, "We think we're ready to go with this.” What she told us was that we needed to be prepared to explain to "the rest of the company," I'm using air quotes because basically what that means is all the white ladies, we needed to be able to explain why Refinery needed this. Cristen: Sesali, Ally Hickson and previous Unbothered contributors all expressed pride and joy in the vision they collectively fought to bring to life. Six days after her BlackoutTuesday tweet went viral, Christene Barberich announced she was stepping down immediately, though the NYT reports that she's staying on as an advisor through the fall. For anyone interested in an educational podcast about philosophy where you don't need to be a graduate-level philosopher to understand it. In this essay, Amber Heard was writing about how she grew up in a border town. Cristen: Ashley left Refinery29 in April 2019. I think, you know, very performatively great. But you know what real allyship looks like? Executive producers are Chris Bannon, Daisy Rosario and Unladylike Media. I'm Jack Shitama, and before we get started, I want to share that I have been on hiatus in The Non-Anxious Leader Network. That was, that was a true statement. The farther up the chain you went, the whiter it got. Ashley: I, you know, really didn't give a fuck. We need to say that word. In recent weeks, dozens have shared their experiences with what they describe as a toxic workplace culture … including Ashley Alese Edwards, whose voice you heard at the top of the show. Caroline: Dumping piles of venture capital in digital media companies like Refinery29 doesn't just build up the churn-and-burn problem for the folks making the content. And she's an easy sacrificial lamb to kind of throw, especially since, like, oh, she was resigning anyway. But legions of current and former BIPOC employees beg to differ. Caroline: Amy Cooper, aka "Central Park Karen," the white woman who called the cops on a Black birdwatcher named Christian Cooper (no relation) and falsely claimed he was "threatening" her. Sesali: So this is, this is the sad part of this, is that I think a lot of the stories that I want to see out in the world do exist. Movements matter…even the ones in public bathrooms – Podcast Episode #90 In which Katy Bowman tells Stephanie Domet how a chance encounter with a copy of USA Today in a Whole Foods bathroom changed her understanding of movement, and why it matters. Kerry had been chasing her own version of the Refinery29 story since August of 2019. Video producers would ask her to hop on camera for various shoots. They kind of want to be "in" with these people. In chronological order, the thinkers and ideas that forged the world we live in are broken down and explained. So she was very much so if you want to talk to her about maybe an idea you had for like a series, or something like that, she was like, "Well, be scrappy. I was too young and too eager to realize that I was signing up to be tokenized.”. "This is awesome. Ashley: Um, yeah. Sound design and additional music is by Casey Holford. And I'm scared that if I speak out, then Christene or someone else at the company is going to make sure I never get a job again in this industry that I want to keep working in. Sesali: We kept having to explain to them why it was really important in all of our marketing materials when we were considering partnering with other companies and other brands, when we were talking about Unbothered that we did not use the word multicultural. Cristen: After months of tensions and more employees speaking out, CEO and founder Audrey Gelman resigned June 11. Sesali Bowen, a former senior writer at Refinery29, will share more about that later in the episode. So for me, that was the breaking point for sure. 756 members in the PhilosophizeThis community. I'm not sure. Kerry: And honestly the story was like near publication, we were like ready to like list allegations and tell Vice that, like, here it is. The idea is: you only contribute when you get more episodes of the show. German Subs. This was on top of stories shared by anonymous current employees. Sesali: It has now become this really shiny piece of marketing real estate, essentially, for advertisers who are able to tap into this very specific and really engaged sector of Refinery's general audience. And so I think, really hearing from, you know, just some of my girls who work there and how different the experience was for them in a way that I didn't see when I was still there and when I was just so excited about the work that we were doing and excited about the opportunities that I was getting. Episode 91; New facebook smilies codes! One of her reporters, Andrea González Ramírez, had been doing a ton of great work. Below is the full transcript of Critical Role episode 90, Voice of the Tempest.This episode courtesy of our own @eponymous_rose and these lovely critters: Transcription: @asingingbadger, @theLadyphie, @deljase, @theskymaid, @ficklefandoms, @karaspage, @eponymous_rose, @LtSeams, @hermangottlieb, @risualto, Gedankeninventur, @we_slipped_away, @tayttimus, … Episode #90 transcript. Ashley: Reading those stories, I was like, wow, I can't believe all this was going on and a lot of it– I had no idea and that a lot of people have been suffering through this. But the movement that showed her the door is a whole other case study on the power of true solidarity. Paying your Black employees fairly, having Black women in top leadership positions & addressing the microaggressions your Black employees deal with from management on a daily basis.”, Caroline: Her thread continued: “How much $ has @refinery29 made off their Black & POC employees? Will she? Posted by 9 days ago. So far, the transcripts of the episodes 1-50 have been each been created completely, or almost completely by the user User:Maxewell124. Caroline: When Justin and Philippe realized that their fashion posts attracted the most eyeballs, they leaned in and began reimagining Refinery as a slick, fashion-forward destination for progressive millennial women. People are wearing whatever they want." They want to know what I think about this. Cristen: The vast majority of VC funding still goes to white men. Jim: Today’s guest is Josh Epstein. Caroline: Our story starts with a Blackout. Transcribed by https://otter.ai and Suzy Buttress [/spp-transcript] The easiest way to listen to The PE Geek Podcast is via our dedicated mobile app, which you can download for FREE for iPhone/iPad & Android. Everyone is actively sharing their salaries and fighting for fairness. Caroline: Well, this has been an incredible conversation. Like we want to go to fashion shows and be another like brand and and the Wing being like I want to, you know, Audrey being like I want to create a place that's inclusive to women because I just feel like there aren't those spaces. So let's just leave– like, let's just put that on the forefront. And I'm like, what does that even mean? Cristen: And Caroline, I’d go a step further and describe what we’re witnessing as a combination of MeToo and Black Lives Matter, both of which were ALSO started by Black women. We were told not to share our salaries. Ally was the only person who was formally assigned to it, and even she had other responsibilities in her actual job title. She's- has a really great voice. Cristen: Ashley was uncomfortable with Christene’s request from the jump. But all the microaggressions along the way added up. And you're - she's no martyr. Caroline: Another significant reason R29 is our case study today? And as Ashley told us, all these former and current staffers rallied together because they genuinely care about each other and the meaningful content they've created despite the toxic workplace environment. I'm, I'm kind of supposed to stay in my place. HaHe_F090_de.srt.txt. Patreon is an easy way to contribute to the show on a per episode basis. In this episode, Michael shares why strategic planning doesn’t work and why 60% to 70% of organizational change projects fail. It– we pretty much had it built perfectly and served on a platter for the company to essentially just launch. Like I think they did have good intentions, like, you know, not all but but definitely some I would trust that they had good intentions. Listen In Your Favorite Podcast APP Apple Podcasts Google Podcasts RadioPublic Stitcher Spotify TuneIn . No, you're kind of stepping aside in disgrace. Most of the episodes have used a … She’d come prepared with a list of stories she was interested in telling, and pulling back the curtain on Refinery’s operations was at the top. Sesali: Amy Emmerich is um. Being in romance, I was like my friends are who really taught me like unconditional love and, you know, like you mess up and someone doesn't throw you away or like, here is how you apologize to someone or here is how you can be challenged by someone that's different than you and and stay with them. Caroline: Nora Ritchie is the senior producer of Unladylike. So that was where a former editor had tipped me that Christene would repeatedly choose to promote, quote unquote, white faces on the site rather than black women. Intersectional feminism and white venture capitalism don't mix all that well for "all women." HaHe_F090_en.srt.txt. Caroline: Overwork and underpay are hallmarks of digital media. Cristen: So in a more perfect, actually inclusive media world, what kinds of stories would you want to be writing and covering? Ashley: And the two people I went to kind of, like, laughed it off and acted like, she's getting paid what she deserves. She never apologized for anything, from what I saw. Am, like, am I going crazy? share. Later that day, employees staged a “digital walkout” demanding the company take further action to correct its practices of disrespecting and underpaying workers.
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