And represented by Gibarian’s son’s outreached hand, Kris’ consciousness is absorbed or transferred or whatever you want to call it into a plane of existence where he and Rhea can exist free of the fear, grief and loss that defined him. In the end, I believe, and I could be wrong, that it was Chris’ love and longing for Rheya and his guilt as well, that ‘encouraged’ Solaris to ‘invite’ him down. For example, to what extent are we humans (or any entity trying to imitate a human) just a collection of what we remember. How about: The first phantom-Rhea jettisoned into space reached earth. This is a fantastic Sci-Fi movie that was somehow missed by most people. What if the guy standing outside the pod is not the real thing? So Solaris has an interest in giving us a perpetual orgasm? Solaris 2002 Imdb. This is certainly not the case for Solaris, Kelvin and his wife longed to be where they were in the ending (apartment), and it was not temporary, their romance would find no end in Solaris. The attraction for either being was something obviously appealing to both at some level in their own potential for understanding. Soderbergh demonstrates this by displacing Dream Rheya to different areas in the scene where, continuity-wise, she shouldn't be. The Federation does not fully trust telepathic sentient races (or self-aware planet/ocean/protoplasmic constructs). However, entanglement, other dimensions, wormholes, who knows. Podobně jako v Tarkovského verzi je Soderberghův Solaris … For the Rheya clone is dead, what we are seeing is not Chris’ idealized memories of Rheya brought to live, we’re seeing the human projection of the Solaris entity he has fallen in love with, while the Solaris entity chooses to use the image of Rheya for it has experienced profound emotions and feelings when occupying the Rheya clone’s body. [*] etc. ), Go to philfilms.utm.edu and IMDb.com for more commentary on this movie but if you pay attention to the part where she said there were no pictures in the apartment and in the end there is a picture it would seem that he did perish in the crash but is now living some semblance of a life created by the alien intelligence. The first thing Kelvin says to Rhea is in fact “Am I alive or dead?…” She responds “We don’t have to think that way anymore.” Above all else it is our morality that makes us human. Regardless, I did enjoy the (2001/2002?) Also, what was Rheya doing talking to Gabarian’s kid? But this would provide Solaris a human to study, for an indefinite period of time. But remember that some kind of deformed dwarf came out accidentally and Chris was able to see it, but then he was taken inside immediately. Yes Wes. Everything we’ve done is forgiven. Respect! This person’s name is Snaut, he is a deputy of the station chief Gibaryan. Who else defeats death but God himself, particularly the Christian God where it is written in the christian scripture that God has conquered death through Christ’s resurrection. Alas, Phantom-Rheya comes to realize that she is a simulacrum of his memories of her. Thus the ending suggests that Chris has left behind his corporeal existance and has taken the essence of the Solaris entities. In the end Kelvin had FAITH that the phantoms are not just some facsimile, that there was something of Rheya in his phantom. Was this an alien intelligent being trying to understand humans by letting a part of it try to become human? Some try to kill their Phantoms. Lem seemed strongly to make Solaris/God created humans. But there’s no denying that some hints may be required in order to appreciate the film jut a little bit more. If Solaris did tempt them, instead of just sending them a kind of prophetic message, remember that the devil tempts for people to gain earthly and temporary pleasures and the long term consequence is pain and suffering. Review Solaris 2002 Keith The Movies. Mmm. I have to say, after reading countless interpretations here, that YOUR explanation makes the most sense to ME. I did try to read every single one of the comments but I did just skim through some of them. Overall, I would like one day to see another re-make of this story taking the best elements of both films with a little more background about the intelligent Ocean life-form on Solaris and the sense of inferiority that the scientists have after studying it for literally generations. I get the feeling you didn’t. I thought perhaps from his descriptions of being there, having to learn the ticks and habits of body language, that the whole concept of earth was foreign, and I guess in my mind, I imagined that perhaps as real Chris crashed into the planet and perished, that a replicant had appeared with Gordon. In the current American version he finds himself in a simulated earth living with Rheya. She even goes on to further say “I had no idea you felt this way.” Someone who has that much callous indifference towards life clearly has issues beyond simple boredom and depression. Hmm, promising! Rheya is the woman we could not live with, yet whom we loved and cannot get out of our mind. So not a phantom version of him, and he didn’t kill himself with the pills. They discover that Snow is in fact Phantom-Snow, who killed Human-Snow in self-defence whenever the original tried to attack him when he appeared. Steven Soderbergh’s SOLARIS (2002) is a challenging film. That is the central theme of Stanislaw Lem’s Solaris. I felt connected to it. -The recurring poem, tells that “…death shall have no dominion.”. Both Chris and this “Rheya” are transformed. As Rheya correctly said in the dinner, GOD can only be described as a higher intelligence, something no one will ever understand. The one person who brought up the photograph, I’d like to know if any one else caught that, and if it actually happened. Stay away? God is everything. As it happens, the novel lends itself to movie adaptions that attempt to extend the philisophical speculation this engenders …. It follows a crew of scientists on a research station as they attempt to understand an extraterrestrial intelligence, which takes the form of a vast ocean on the titular alien planet. There are still a lot of plot holes, naturally. Then during the sequence where we see three Rheya’s at once, the third smiles knowingly at Chris- is that the Solaris entity’s way of giving Chris a slight hint about its nature and the manner in which it exists? Hints such as Rheya complaining about “strange thoughts” in her head- a sign of her somehow detecting the Solaris entity? And later, "I'm suicidal because that's how you remember me." He wheezes with disgust: "I do not know you, I do not know. movie. We’re together now. Our idea of humanity bewitches us, while humanity itself stays safely sealed away into its billions of separate containers, or "people." When Kelvin arrives on the space station, he finds the survivors seriously spooked. I came here looking for an easy explanation or interpretation as to some of the finer points in the plot of the movie. He shuts down the door to the shuttle and decides to remain aboard the station as it crashes down on Solaris. Solaris lives, Your email address will not be published. What would you do? Interesting movie. Though you see it through out, I believe the story to be centered around life and death. He couldn’t resolve his relationship with Rhea on Earth or purgatory (the land of ghosts) because Rhea outside of Solaris was nothing but a facsimile of her essence based on his perception. The nature of this ‘recreation’ is subject to debate, as is most of the book and both movies. Gordon wants to destroy Rheya, hypothesizes that they may end up carrying the Phantoms back on Earth if they don’t kill her. I found the film quite disturbing in a way, and haven’t been so interested in a film for a quite a while. Unrestricted by the rules we live by now, with the line; We don’t have to think like that anymore.’. Perhaps the pills taken in the movie were anti-depressants, as Chris instructed even the phantom Rheya to take them. This revealed to him the possibility of the nature of the being, Reya. It would explain her last remark to him in the movie, that everything was forgiven. He said he was alone on Earth for three years without her; he was extremely devoted, and wanted to marry and have children with her. That our loved ones are always with us and in this scientific experiment the proof is real and tangible but entangled with a new definition of what it means to be human. Gordon was very convincing is her science-ing of the situation, the audience is even persuaded to believe and root for her, but again that is part of human folly clinging to human understanding even when faced with GOD (a higher intelligence) himself. The last scene is the afterlife, they will live forever (the cut finger heals). They are in heaven!!! It’s one of my top 10 favorites movies of all time. Back at his apartment, Rheya appears, and she says, all is forgiven, and the do over is validated. The novel is among Lem's best-known works. So everything is happening in his mind and nowhere else not even on Solaris ! Like any good “shrink”, you bring it out, you look at it, and you talk about it, until it no longer can hurt you. I just got a part of it: “Humans can’t understand that”. A connection. -How Kelvin near the end reaches out to the child’s hand, alluding to Michaelangelo’s painting of how Adam reaches out to GOD. In 2002, Cameron served as producer on the 2002 film Solaris, a science fiction drama directed by Steven Soderbergh. ct) a picture in his house. Meanwhile Rheya essentially argues that there is a GOD and that GOD is just a higher intelligence, and by higher she means something that humans will not ever understand. Introducing to Kelvin that perhaps God is not just some manmade idea/fabrication and truly a higher power and intelligence thus making it possible for Kelvin to easily accept Solaris (God) in the end. These were easily the best comments on the internet, about almost any movie. Roger Ebert was the film critic of the Chicago Sun-Times from 1967 until his death in 2013. So he creates this story in his mind of going to this space station. Is that the Solaris entity taking control of Rheya’s body and trying to replicate human interaction? It was made into a 1972 movie of the same name by the Russian master Andrei Tarkovsky. (Original sin?). And it would explain the regeneration ability of a phantom, the healing of the cut. The more bizarre sequence is the “dream” sequence, the one where Chris sees multiple versions of Rheya at one time, but just before then he dreams of Rheya looking at him directly in different environments which were significant to Chris: the subway train, his apartment, the street where she agreed to marry him. (Whether he is now truly a Phantom is a matter of interpretation, but I think it make more sense and has more poignancy, if he’s still the Human-Chris imagining himself as a Phantom-Chris.) It’s because Vincent is Spike’s shadow (in Jungian terms). She seems alive, so I’ll kill her. Well-reviewed in its time, Steven Soderbergh’s 2002 film Solaris placed a paltry 124 th on the US box office for the year and its total gross amounted to less than a third of the film’s estimated budget. We, perhaps, should ask ourselves is this really a best practice reaction. Solaris 2002 And 1972 Movie Reviews The Dynamic Universe Blog. To understand the movie we can always go back to the dinner date. Chris, becoming more and more attached to Phantom-Rheya, doesn’t agree. Solaris is in fact GOD , a HIGHER INTELLIGENCE. I like your take. Perhaps it was overshadowed by the event of 9/11. I’ll give my own take of the movie, some of what is said here is same as how I understood SOLARIS but not quite. I have loved this movie since I first saw it in theatres. The story probably makes more sense (but not that much) with the second interpretation. Kelvin knows this materialization cannot be his wife, yet is confronted with a person who seems palpably real, shares memories with him and is flesh and blood. Everyone seems fixated on the details, with little thought to the overall point of the movie. And it evokes one of the rarest of movie emotions, ironic regret. Solaris is rereleased on February 18 at the National Film Theatre, London SE1. The physics of the phantoms never stated that if you destroyed one, or perhaps satisfied what you had to do with that one, that a different one didn’t try to appear. Perhaps it knew that Chris’s human form was too fragile to continue (to live) after the space station crashed and so copied him to keep as a ‘pet’, or to study further, or even as something it ‘liked’. I love the 73 version and this one for different reasons but the 2001 version and the other versions including the book are all dealing with an alien or at least an unknown intelligence which has inhuman or unknown reasoning or logic when it interacts with humans. Let’s take a look at the story, stripped down to its bare essentials and very roughly re-arranged in chronological order: [November 2006: Update! Yes, it’s a pretentious art film. Solyaris) is a 1972 Russian science fiction art film adaptation of the novel Solaris (1961), co-written and directed by Andrei Tarkovsky. The protagonist, Dr. Chris Kelvin, struggles with the questions of Solaris's motivation, his beliefs and memories, and reconciling what was lost with an opportunity for a second chance. Nope – don’t need to think this one thru at all, i’ll just use this very expensive escape vehicle and shuv her in. But then that question would be, did she kill it, did she contain it. It is a workshop for a discussion of human identity. Just watch the special features. At a time when many American movies pump up every fugitive emotion into a clanging assault on the audience, Soderbergh's "Solaris" is quiet and introspective. Gibarian – after his son manifests on the station, kills himself for reasons that aren’t clear. Solaris tells the story of a planet that reads minds, and obliges its visitors by devising and providing people they have lost, and miss. Everything is a struggle to be sane again. And she eludes any and all questions about how she got there. I initially thought of this after pondering the idea that Gordon was in fact a phantom (perhaps an angel?) She herself may be a phantom wanting to come to Earth. Dünya ile bütün bağlantıları kesilmiş olan bir uzay istasyonunda görev yapan psikolog Chris Kelvin (George Clooney), cevabı zor verilecek bir soru ile karşı karşıya... Hayallerin, hatıraların ve gerçeğin birbirine karıştığı Solaris adlı gizemli gezegende Kelvin zamansız ölen karısı Rheya’ı düşünür. It’s the feeling or concept of longing for something gone or possibly something else not understood in that experience(memory) kelvin has that the entity latched onto. The other survivor, the goofy Snow (Jeremy Davies), asks, "I wonder if they can get pregnant?" Some soldiers/investigators are sent to Solaris by The Company in order to help, but are plagued by the same Phantoms. If you think I’m placing too much stock in the idea of there being entities, numerous sentient beings, living inside of Solaris. Gibarian, for his own reasons, chose to end his life with the memory – albeit painful – of his dead son intact – leaving the simulacrum behind. I figured the planet detected unhappiness in each character and thus presented the phantom that would most likely address this (I.e., Chris and Rhea). Whether people agreed or disagreed these are all great comments. Too many data corruption probabilities. Also, I like the idea stated earlier that Gordon was actually a phantom, too, thus was going back to Earth, likely to study humans from that perspective, too. Playing is it? The second incarnation was more refined after Kelvin conversated with Snow about who she was and her significane to him, his question of “do you want her to” posed to Kelvin about her returning perhaps made him think deeper about his memories of his wife and hence the refinement in Rheya and the vivid blue eyes that she had the second time around. The entire movie is in a suspension, a purgatory. By putting very human characters in extreme situations caused by an unknown, but rational (?) Gordon leaves, presumably to return in the sequel. That is why we are never really given any appreciable description of what SOLARIS is in the movie, because how can Steven Soderbergh describe GOD? As the film opens, two astronauts have died in a space station circling the planet, and the survivors have sent back alarming messages. I have faith in everybody that wrote here, whether I agreed with them or not. Great discussion and website! The purists will not be happy. However, the result of these manifestations is beyond the humans comprehension, except, perhaps for Gibarian, who directly beckons Kelvin to come to Solaris, because – we assume – that he believes it will provide Chris – perhaps singularly – what he seeks – a chance for redemption. No easy answers, of course, but I wonder again about Rhea locked in the escape pod drifting for eternity. Guilt, loss, loneliness, despair, heartache. So is Rhea phantom 1 trapped forever in a death and rebirth spiral, somehow reincorporated into the corporeal uber-Rhea, or but a plaything of Solaris to be reabsorbed as perhaps Kelvin and the station is at the end? There are some shocks and surprises, but this is not "Alien." Steven Soderbergh’s SOLARIS (2002) is a challenging film. Does indeed feel like early Internet. Because god is worshipped, as a being we imitate. Your email address will not be published. Is this the same lady or another version. Solaris triumphant, keeping Chris’ mind occupied like a little pet? The Soviet era film is clunky and very dated, but has a definite ‘charm’ of it’s own and captures the fear and tension among the crew better. Vincent knows he’s living in a false dream world, but he is the only one aware of it because he is more than just a part of Spike’s dream. 2 identical ones. True love through death, maybe. But, having read the novel, Solaris was not God-like, And flew home with her. that in the movie the team of scientists headed by Gibarian is here presented in front of them an entity that is not human, with godlike powers, something which would in their own logic in the dinner would fit the bill of GOD – yet still they didn’t understand. Dr. Gordon’s creation was her drug addicted daughter (not shown in this movie). Was it a symbol of a mystery he must unlock? Mmm. So here goes: In order to understand the movie there are some scenes or plot devices that are very important to remember: Wow – amazingly enlightening discussion of a challenging, captivating work. Whether kelvin is alive permanently inside of Solaris I don’t know but I always liked the idea of it. Do not read if you haven’t seen the film. We do not know the actual other person. That would involve some sort of form with a box to tick. There are multiple understandings and interpretations of this version of the story created by Lem. Rhea had an abortion without even telling Kelvin. Bring half your family in. She drinks, presumably eats, and poos That’s “there”. She has no secrets because he did not know her secrets. So the rescue pod brought her safely back to earth. This would allow it two environments in which to study humans, to work to understand them. There’s a scene I keep coming back whenever a rewatch this movie though, I don’t think anyone has touched on yet. anything like our expectations. It allows you to make up your mind. In an age where cinema-SF has become nearly synonymous with fancy special effects and overblown action sequences, that’s rare and maybe even important. The original screen play to the English film, and its initial shooting, also contains philosophical dialogue. A planet with properties that creates out of memory doesn’t indicate a “god”, anymore than the existence of the sun, or all that we knew in years gone by. If she is suicidal, it is because he thought she was. Free Will to choose is God’s gift to us. 11/29/2002 Though not much is revealed about the proposed science-fiction art film from Italian auteur Guido Anselmi (Marcello Mastroianni), the artistically and emotionally blocked protagonist of Federico Fellini’s 8 ½ (1963), when I imagine what it would be, I think of Steven Soderbergh’s Solaris from 2002. The deep irony here is that all of our relationships in the real world are exactly like that, even without the benefit of Solaris. Dream/Phantom Gibarian also suggests Solaris doesn’t “want something”. When he fails, he tries again. Wots the rules here. maybe some sorta twin brother !!! He goes back to sleep, and once again Solaris re-creates Rheya. Well maybe because it was conveying the message that love can be found there in SOLARIS. Maybe Solaris is angry at the destruction of its Phantoms), and that the station will soon crash down on the planet. Rheya, for example, says, "I'm not the person I remember. For other films based on the novel, see Solaris (1968 film) and Solaris (2002 film).Solaris (Russian: Солярис, tr. In fact, full disclosure I am an agnostic, and I am only going through about this objectively, connecting the dots between the movie and other source material the movie alludes to. It mostly takes place in the characters’ heads. He cuts his finger but it heals, defying the laws of physics, a synthetic world that seems real, yet it is an intricate simluation like the film The Thirteenth Floor, and Vanilla Sky. Knowing this we can go on and process the other parts of the movie and see that it supports the idea that SOLARIS is in fact GOD. At the dinner party they discuss the idea of God and Rhea (named after the Greek Goddess, the “mother of the Gods”) becomes upset with his atheism, apropos the concept of the afterlife. Solaris' narrative and philosophical elements are inspired by Lem's novel, also the foundation for Russian director Andrei Tarkovsky's 1972 film. But I felt like the first time he lied to Rhea/Solaris, about having flushed her, Rhea/Solaris got damaged. The movie needs science fiction to supply the planet and the space station, which furnish the premise and concentrate the action, but it is essentially a psychological drama. Chris regretted not being there for his wife, and Solaris gives him that chance. Soderbergh's version is more clean and spare, more easily readable, but it pays full attention to the ideas and doesn't compromise. trying to make its way to earth to study more human activity. Snow, of course, being the simulacrum of his twin, is putting together his own existence as the story develops. Self-sacrifice out of guilt for not remembering Rheya “right”? Other times Rheya says things in a rather detached way- for instance she tells Chris “I love you so very much” in a very empty way both in the voice and the face. According the Phantom-Snow, because Dr.Gordon’s Higgs (Phantom destroying)device used so much power it drained the ship’s battery/power cells, and so the ship was unable to resist Solaris’ gravitational pull. ‘What is Solaris?’: sci-fi classic gets gender-flipped for mainstage adaptation ... accompanied by a montage from the 2002 film. Solaris is a 1961 science fiction novel by Polish writer Stanisław Lem. It’s also a fine true Science Fiction movie. Read it twenty years ago. Human motivations don’t apply to Solaris. Further evident by the cut healing and the picture on the refrigerator. But a being of that magnitude would be mostly incomprehensible to us. Though maybe I am just confused. The phantoms are usually people (alive or dead) that the scientists long to talk to. 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